memeorandum: In Polls, Biden Gets a Hold (Nate Silver/FiveThirtyEight)

11:40 AM ET, October 12, 2012

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CNN:

CNN Poll: Debate watchers split on who won VP debate — Danville, Kentucky (CNN) - Call it a draw. — Forty-eight percent of voters who watched the vice presidential debate think that Rep. Paul Ryan won the showdown, according to a CNN/ORC International nationwide poll conducted right after Thursday night's faceoff.

CBS News:

Poll: Biden takes debate over Ryan, uncommitted voters say — Fifty percent of uncommitted voters who tuned into Thursday night's vice presidential debate in Danville, Ky., said they see Vice President Joe Biden as the winner over Mitt Romney's GOP running mate Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., according to an instant poll taken by CBS News.

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Wall Street Journal:

The Bully vs. the Wonk — The Veep's strategy: Show contempt for your opponent. — So now we know what Team Obama's comeback plan was following last week's defeat in the Presidential debate. Unleash Joe Biden to interrupt, filibuster, snarl, smirk and otherwise show contempt for Paul Ryan.

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Joe Biden / CNN:

Transcript: Vice Presidential Debate — (CNN) - Vice President Joe Biden and Republican vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan met in Danville, Kentucky on Thursday evening for the vice presidential debate. — MARTHA RADDATZ, MODERATOR: Good evening, and welcome to the first and only vice presidential debate …

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Patrick Gavin / Politico:

Twitter frowns on Joe Biden's laugh — Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan were the two candidates on stage at Thursday's vice presidential debate, but a third character emerged: Joe Biden's laugh, which didn't escape the notice of tweeting politicos.

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Wall Street Journal:

Noonan: Confusing Strength With Aggression — A draw on substance, but the vice president loses on style. — The vice presidential debate was uniquely important because if Paul Ryan won it or did well, the Romney-Ryan ticket's momentum would be continued or speed up. If he did not, that momentum would slow or stop.

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Nate Silver / FiveThirtyEight:

In Polls, Biden Gets a Hold — News media narratives tend to group horse-race developments into one of the three basic categories: win, lose, or draw. Sometimes, however, a political event falls into the awkward middle ground between those realms. — Thursday night's vice-presidential debate …

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Josh Marshall / Talking Points Memo:

Very Quick Thoughts — I'll keep it brief. — I'd call the first exchange on foreign policy basically a draw. Biden was on uncomfortable terrain on the Libya story. On each successive encounter, Biden was on the offensive and owned the conversation. I don't think it was close.

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Fred Barnes / Weekly Standard:

Biden Bombed — You don't win a nationally televised debate by being rude and obnoxious. You don't win by interrupting your opponent time after time after time or by being a blowhard. You don't win with facial expressions, especially smirks or fake laughs, or by pretending to be utterly exasperated …

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Allahpundit / Hot Air:

Angry old man yells at Paul Ryan for 90 minutes; Update: CNN insta-poll of undecideds shows tie; Update: Ryan wins CNN insta-poll overall, 48/44 — I expected “table-pounding atmospherics” from Biden but I didn't expect him to act like a total jackhole for fully 90 minutes.

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Katie Glueck / Politico:

Sarah Palin: Martha Raddatz let Joe Biden run wild — Sarah Palin took vice presidential debate moderator Martha Raddatz to task for allowing Vice President Joe Biden to “run roughshod” over Paul Ryan. — “Really tough format, Sean, for someone like a Paul Ryan or anybody else up against Joe Biden …

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Josh Rogin / Foreign Policy:
Biden contradicts State Department on Benghazi security

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Andrew Sullivan / The Daily Dish:
Live-Blogging The Biden-Ryan Debate

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Dylan Byers / Politico:
Debate verdict: Martha Raddatz took control

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Charles P. Pierce / Esquire:
VP Debate 2012: The Real Paul Ryan Is Bad for America

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Alicia M. Cohn / The Hill:
GOP not smiling over Biden's laughter at debate vs. Ryan

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Reuters:
Joe Biden, Paul Ryan clear the bar — barely

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Andrew Rosenthal / Taking Note:
In Praise of Martha Raddatz

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Michael Barone / Washington Examiner:
Thoughts on the vice presidential debate

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Julian Pecquet / The Hill:
Biden blames intelligence community for changing story about Libya attack

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Maggie Haberman / Politico:
Sources: Ryan to be called ‘mister,’ not ‘congressman,’ at debate (Updated)

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John Nolte / BREITBART.COM:
MEDIA HAMMERS BIDEN: ‘STOP SMIRKING!’ ‘WEIRD,’ ‘JERK’

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Bruce Kesler / Maggie's Farm:
Rude Biden Turns Off Many Independents

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New York Times:
Biden and Ryan Quarrel Aggressively in Debate, Offering Contrasts

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Charles P. Pierce / Esquire:
The Zombie-Eyed Granny-Starver Takes on the One Man Who Relishes This Mess: Your 2012 VP Debate Preview

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John Boone / E! Online:

NEWS/Lindsay Lohan: I'm Voting for Mitt Romney — Lindsay Lohan should have enough issues to focus on in her life (like, say, the blow up fight she had with her mom and subsequent fight she had with her dad) but she has another on her mind: Unemployment. — The Liz & Dick star stepped …

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Cindy Adams / New York Post:

Lindsay Lohan endorses Mitt Romney — LOS ANGELES - Four years ago, Lindsay Lohan referred to Obama's Presidential victory as “amazing,” but cut to 2012, and it seems the “Mean Girls” star has had a serious change of heart. — “I think unemployment is very important for now, so as of now I think …

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Caitlin McDevitt / Reuters: Lindsay Lohan backs Mitt Romney

Nobelprize.org:

The Nobel Peace Prize for 2012 — The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2012 is to be awarded to the European Union (EU). The union and its forerunners have for over six decades contributed to the advancement of peace and reconciliation, democracy and human rights in Europe.

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Ian Swanson / The Hill:
European Union wins Nobel Peace Prize for uniting continent

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Iain Martin / blogs.telegraph.co.uk:
EU winning Nobel Peace Prize is beyond parody, like knighting Fred Goodwin in the middle of a mad boom

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New York Times:
Nobel Committee Awards Peace Prize to European Union

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Gene Maddaus / The Informer:

Brad Sherman Grabs Howard Berman At Debate, Challenges Him To A Fight — Think Biden-Ryan was a hard-fought debate? Then you missed the Berman-Sherman brawl up in the Valley today. — Congressman Brad Sherman put his arm around rival Congressman Howard Berman and challenged him to a fight, saying “Do you want to get into this?”

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Shelby Grad / PolitiCal:
Berman, Sherman get into near-altercation at forum [Video]

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Igor Volsky / ThinkProgress:

At The Vice Presidential Debate: Ryan Told 24 Myths In 40 Minutes — Paul Ryan spoke for 40 of the 90 minutes during Thursday night's vice presidential debate and managed to tell at least 24 myths during that time: — 1) “It took the president two weeks to acknowledge that [the Libya attack] was a terrorist attack.”

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Adam C. Smith / Tampa Bay Times:

Times/Bay News 9/Herald exclusive Florida poll: Romney 51, Obama 44 — Barack Obama's lackluster debate performance last week has dramatically altered the presidential race in Florida, with Mitt Romney opening up a decisive 7 percentage point lead, according to a new Tampa Bay Times/Bay News 9/Miami Herald poll.