memeorandum: 3 winners and 2 losers from the Walz-Vance debate (Vox)

11:20 AM ET, October 2, 2024

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Melanie Mason / Politico:

Dead even: POLITICO snap poll shows stark division on debate — The results reflect the country's hyper-polarized politics. — Talk about a divided nation: There was no decisive winner in the first-and-only vice presidential debate of the 2024 election. — Asked who won Tuesday's debate …

Discussion: The Hill, New Republic, Townhall, The Guardian and The Daily Beast

Will Saletan / The Bulwark:

The One Question That Mattered in the VP Debate — IN TUESDAY NIGHT'S VICE-PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, JD Vance and Tim Walz covered lots of issues: inflation, housing, guns, abortion, immigration, health care, and much more. — But there was only one question on which the vice presidency …

Discussion: Mother Jones, Raw Story and Democrats

CBS News:

CBS News VP debate poll shows voter reactions to Vance-Walz showdown — In the first — and likely only — vice-presidential debate between Tim Walz and JD Vance, voters who watched Tuesday night said it was an almost even match, and an overwhelming majority felt the tone of the debate was positive.

Discussion: CNN, Washington Examiner, The Hill, Scripps News, New York Times, New York Post, The Daily Caller, Daily Caller News Foundation, No More Mister Nice Blog, The Daily Beast, El País, The Guardian, USA Today, Washington Post, Newsbusters, Wausau and Los Angeles Times

Vox:

3 winners and 2 losers from the Walz-Vance debate — The vice presidential debate between Tim Walz and JD Vance on Tuesday was something of a stalemate, though it did feature several striking moments and offered an interesting preview into what presidential politics might look like once Donald Trump is off the stage.

Discussion: Digby's Hullabaloo, Florida Phoenix, ABC News, Irish Examiner, ME and New Jersey Online

Zack Beauchamp / Vox:

The only moment from the VP debate that mattered — At the end of the vice presidential debate, Gov. Tim Walz asked Sen. JD Vance a pointed question: Did Donald Trump lose the 2020 election? Vance's response: “Tim, I'm focused on the future. Did Kamala Harris censor Americans from speaking …

Discussion: Civil Discourse …, CBS News, The Verge, The Daily Beast, NPR, Newsbusters, The Atlantic, Raw Story and Scripps News

Philip Bump / Washington Post:

JD Vance is Trump 2.0 — The senator from Ohio carries all of Trump's politics and far less of his baggage. — As Donald Trump consolidated power over the Republican Party in 2015 and 2016, his opponents, then still confident that he would not be president, mused at how much more dangerous …

Discussion: The Guardian, The Hill, Politico, abc7NY, Vox, Fox News, ABC News, Variety, Bloomberg and New York Daily News

Politico:

The big VP debate takeaway: Neither candidate delivered the goods — Walz and Vance played defense for the presidential nominees. — Tim Walz and JD Vance spent much of Tuesday night defending their running mates' records. They were less successful promoting their bosses' plans for the future.

Discussion: The Bulwark, HuffPost, Blaze Media, Associated Press, The Daily Beast, Washington Post, Semafor, USA Today, Raw Story, Slate and NBC News

CNN:

CNN Instant Poll: No clear winner in VP debate between Tim Walz and JD Vance — Registered voters who watched Tuesday's debate between vice presidential nominees Tim Walz and JD Vance were closely divided over which candidate did the better job, according to a CNN instant poll …

Discussion: The Hill, The Daily Beast, Breitbart, New Jersey Online and New York Times

Dana Milbank / Washington Post:

At debate, Vance whines: You weren't supposed to fact-check me! — Republican vice-presidential nominee brings a Magic Drawing Board to his face-off with Tim Walz. — Half an hour into Tuesday night's vice-presidential debate, JD Vance lodged a whiny protest.

Discussion: Raw Story, The Left Hook with Wajahat Ali, Washington Examiner, Mediaite, The Dean's Report, Talking Points Memo, The Independent, The American Conservative, The Nation, HuffPost, New Jersey Online, USA Today, Breitbart, RedState, The Daily Signal, The Daily Beast, The Guardian and Fox News

Tessa Stuart / Rolling Stone:
J.D. Vance Tries Desperately to Rewrite His Abortion Stance During Debate

Discussion: Zeteo, Pepperspectives, The Guardian, Washington Examiner, Wall Street Journal, CBS News, Joe.My.God., HuffPost and Washington Times

Stefan Becket / CBS News:
Read the full VP debate transcript from the Walz-Vance showdown

Discussion: Althouse, Mock Paper Scissors, New York Post, So What, Blaze Media, Steve Sailer, FactCheck.org, Power Line, Advocate and Mediaite

Laura Doan / CBS News:
Fact checking VP debate claims from Walz and Vance's 2024 showdown

Discussion: Wall Street Journal, New York Times, Mediaite, Washington Examiner, The Verge, Raw Story, PolitiFact, ABC News, Breitbart, abc7NY, Fox News, Ordinary Times, Joe.My.God. and RedState

Judd Legum / Popular Information:
The difference between Vance and Trump

Discussion: RedState, USA Today, Townhall, Washington Examiner and Wall Street Journal

Byron York / Washington Examiner:
Vance crushes Walz, debate was over in first minute

Discussion: USA Today and CBS News

Zachary Basu / Axios:
America's time machine: Takeaways from a refreshingly civil VP debate

Discussion: National Journal, HuffPost, New York Times, NPR and Washington Examiner

Dominick Mastrangelo / The Hill:
CBS cuts mics of Vance, Walz during immigration argument

Jamison Foser / Finding Gravity:
None of us should even know who JD Vance is

Discussion: Eschaton

Reagan Reese / The Daily Caller:
‘Nervous As Hell’: Bewildered Walz Emerges From Media Quarantine Only To Get Shelled By Vance

Discussion: Washington Post

Washington Post:
Who won the VP debate? Voters weigh in on how Vance and Walz performed.

Discussion: USA Today, Washington Examiner, OutsideTheBeltway and Townhall

CNN:
Walz's claim that he was in Hong Kong during Tiananmen Square protests undercut by unearthed newspaper reports

Steven Nelson / New York Post:
Tim Walz is rocked by cool JD Vance, admits 'I'm a knucklehead' during genial VP debate

Discussion: Fox News, Raw Story, American Greatness, Variety, Washington Post, The Guardian, ABC News, The American Spectator, Washington Examiner, MPR News, The Hill and NewsNation

Jonathan Allen / NBC News:
Vance claims Trump ‘salvaged’ Obamacare. Trump tried, and failed, to kill it.

Discussion: The Atlantic, Fox News, HuffPost, Roll Call, Raw Story, Balloon Juice, The Gateway Pundit, Advocate, STAT, National Review, Joe.My.God., Breitbart and Daily Kos

Ryan J. Reilly / NBC News:
‘Damning non-answer’: Vance refuses to acknowledge Trump lost the 2020 election

Discussion: Raw Story, The Hill, ABC News, New York Times, Washington Post, Votebeat, The Hollywood Reporter, Business Insider, HuffPost, The Guardian, New Jersey Online and USA Today

Oliver Wiseman / The Free Press:
Let Israel Win — It's Wednesday, October 2. This is The Front Page, your daily window …

Discussion: Washington Examiner, Jewish Telegraphic Agency, National Review, One America News Network, freebeacon.com and Fox News

MPR News:
A deeper look at Walz's China ties ahead of Tuesday's debate

Discussion: Washington Examiner, Reuters, New York Times, NBC News, RedState, The Gateway Pundit and ABC News

Axios:
Vance: GOP has to earn America's trust back on abortion

Discussion: CNN, Mediaite, Power Line, NBC News, Plain Dealer, MinnPost, Bloomberg, HuffPost, The Hollywood Reporter, The Guardian, Breitbart, Business Insider, Washington Examiner, Democrats, The Daily Beast, The Hill and New York Post

USA Today:
Vice presidential debate fact check: What Tim Walz, JD Vance get right (and wrong)

Stef W. Kight / Axios:
JD Vance explains immigrant deportation priorities if Trump is elected

Discussion: The Federalist, USA Today, Fox News, Breitbart, Democrats and Washington Examiner

Washington Post:

Trump mixes up words, swerves among subjects in off-topic speech — The Republican nominee appeared tired and complained about his heightened campaign schedule. — MILWAUKEE — Republican nominee Donald Trump spoke for 33 minutes before his first mention of the ostensible focus of his remarks.

Discussion: Raw Story

Aaron Rupar / Public Notice:

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Charisma Madarang / Rolling Stone:
Trump Mocks 100 U.S. Troops Injured in Iran on His Watch: ‘They Had a Headache’

Discussion: The Hill, Raw Story and The Daily Beast

Brian Stelter / CNN:

Trump backs out of ‘60 Minutes’ primetime interview, CBS says — New York CNN — Former President Donald Trump has backed out of a previously scheduled interview with “60 Minutes,” the most-watched newsmagazine in the United States, CBS News said Tuesday evening.

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Monica Alba / NBC News:
Harris launches a new ad that hits Trump's age in criticizing Vance

Discussion: PJ Media, Politico, New York Times, New York Post, RedState, Daily Kos, NewsNation, USA Today, The Federalist, Axios and Raw Story

Mike Allen / Axios:
Trump rejects “60 Minutes” interview; Harris accepts

Discussion: Variety, Twitchy, The Daily Beast, New York Post and Raw Story

Edward Luce / Financial Times:
Trump's ageing is as real as Biden's

Discussion: Breitbart and Townhall

Robert Sherman / The Hill:

What Iran's missile attack on Israel felt like — HAIFA, Israel — I knew right from the get-go this attack from Iran was going to be different than anything we had seen. — Over the past year, I've personally witnessed countless rocket attacks on cities like Tel Aviv, Ashkelon and Sderot coming from Gaza.

David E. Sanger / New York Times:
A Wider War in the Middle East, From Hamas to Hezbollah and Now Iran

Discussion: OutsideTheBeltway, The Guardian, The Atlantic and Bloomberg

Paul Specht / WRAL-TV:

Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson criticized for skipping vote on Helene emergency declaration — As a deadly storm system approached the southeastern U.S. last week, North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper's office asked top state officials to support his call for emergency help.

Discussion: Raw Story and NC Newsline

Cook Political Report:

Swing State Polling Finds Deadlocked Presidential Contest, ‘Blue Wall’ Senate Races Tighten — A new Cook Political Report Swing State Project Survey conducted by BSG and GS Strategy Group (September 19-25; 2,941 voters), shows Vice President Kamala Harris leading or tied with former President Donald Trump …

Discussion: The Hill, Wide World of News and New Jersey Online

Ava Kofman / ProPublica:

A Pair of Billionaire Preachers Built the Most Powerful Political Machine in Texas. That's Just the Start. — Tim Dunn and Farris Wilks are poised to take their Christian nationalist agenda nationwide. — Co-published with The New York Times Magazine … Reporting Highlights

Devin Dwyer / ABC News:

How the US Supreme Court could get involved in the 2024 presidential election — Unprecedented partisan litigation over voting could reach the justices. — The U.S. Supreme Court, faced with sagging public confidence and a deepening perception its decisions are politically-motivated …

Julia Manchester / The Hill:

Cook Political Report shifts Texas Senate race toward Democrats — The Cook Political Report on Tuesday shifted Texas's Senate race from “likely Republican” to “lean Republican,” signaling momentum for Rep. Colin Allred's (D-Texas) challenge against incumbent Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) in the red state.

Discussion: The Independent, Joe.My.God. and Axios